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Down Fifty Per Cent Needs Up One Hundred to Get Back

Three different questions share the word percentage, and a fall is never undone by a rise of the same size.

P% of A

 

B is what % of A

 

Change A to B

 

To get back to A

 

What it takes to recover

Per cent against percentage points

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How the calculation works

The fall and the recovery are different numbers Start 100 After −50% 50 After +50% 75 — not back to 100 Bars are 2 px per unit. Recovering a 50% fall takes a 100% rise, because the rise is measured against the smaller number.

How to Use This Tool

Enter two numbers and a percentage. All three of the questions people mean by "percentage" are answered at once, from the same inputs.

Three questions, one word

The reason percentage calculators are confusing is that the word covers three different operations, and with round numbers they can all produce the same answer:

what is 15% of 200          200 x 0.15       =  30
30 is what percent of 200   30 / 200         =  15%
200 to 230, what change     (230-200) / 200  =  15%

down 10%  ->  up  11.1% to recover
down 20%  ->  up  25.0%
down 50%  ->  up 100.0%
down 80%  ->  up 400.0%

+50% then -50%   100 -> 150 -> 75
-50% then +50%   100 ->  50 -> 75   same either way
Percentage changes multiply; they do not add

Why a fall needs a bigger rise

Because the rise is measured against a smaller base. Fall 50 per cent and you are at half; to get back you need to add the whole of what remains, which is 100 per cent of it. Fall 80 per cent and the recovery is 400 per cent, which is why deep losses are so much worse than they look.

The same asymmetry means successive changes never add up. Plus 50 followed by minus 50 leaves you 25 per cent down, and the order makes no difference because multiplication commutes.

Percentage points are a different unit

If an interest rate moves from 4 per cent to 6 per cent, it has risen 2 percentage points and 50 per cent. Both are true and they describe the same event.

Which one gets quoted usually depends on which sounds better. A fee rising from 1 per cent to 1.5 per cent is "half a percentage point" or "a 50 per cent increase" — identical fact, very different impression. When a headline gives a percentage change of something that is itself a percentage, it is worth checking which one it means.

Discounts do not stack the way they look

Twenty per cent off, then a further 10 per cent off, is not 30 per cent off. It is 0.8 x 0.9 = 0.72, which is 28 per cent off. The second discount applies to the already-reduced price, and the gap widens with larger numbers: 50 and 50 is 75 per cent off, not 100.

Reverse percentages need division, not subtraction

If a price includes 20 per cent tax and is $120, the pre-tax price is not $120 minus 20 per cent, which would be $96. It is 120 / 1.2 = $100. Subtracting the percentage takes it off the wrong base, and this is one of the most common arithmetic mistakes in everyday life.

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Frequently Asked Questions

How do I calculate a percentage of a number?
Multiply by the percentage divided by 100. Fifteen per cent of 200 is 200 x 0.15 = 30. This is the question most people mean, but it is only one of three that share the word.
Why does a 50 per cent loss need a 100 per cent gain to recover?
Because the gain is measured against the smaller number. After a 50 per cent fall you hold half, and getting back means adding the whole of what remains — 100 per cent of it. A 80 per cent fall needs a 400 per cent gain.
Is 20 per cent off then 10 per cent off the same as 30 per cent off?
No, it is 28 per cent off. The second discount applies to the already-reduced price, so the factors multiply: 0.8 x 0.9 = 0.72. The gap grows with larger discounts — 50 and 50 is 75 per cent off, not 100.
What is the difference between per cent and percentage points?
If a rate goes from 4 per cent to 6 per cent it has risen 2 percentage points and 50 per cent. Both are correct. Which one gets quoted usually depends on which sounds more impressive.
How do I remove a percentage that is already included?
Divide, do not subtract. A $120 price including 20 per cent tax has a pre-tax value of 120 / 1.2 = $100, not $120 minus 20 per cent, which would be $96. Subtracting applies the percentage to the wrong base.
Does the order of percentage changes matter?
No. Plus 50 then minus 50 gives 75, and minus 50 then plus 50 also gives 75, because the changes are multiplications and multiplication commutes. What matters is that they multiply rather than add.

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